OCD themes

Symmetry and ordering OCD

In symmetry and ordering OCD, you feel a strong urge to arrange, line up, count or repeat things until they feel ‘just right’. It is not the same as liking a tidy home.

This guide explains the signs, why the urge can feel so strong, and how treatment can help.

This is not your fault

Needing things to feel ‘just right’ is not fussiness. OCD is a health condition like any other. The NHS says there is nothing to be ashamed or embarrassed about, and it is not your fault.

1.2%

You are not alone. OCD-UK estimates that OCD affects around 1.2% of people, which is around three quarters of a million people in the UK.

  1. Common obsessions

    You may have:

    • a strong need for things to be even, symmetrical or in order
    • a feeling that something is ‘not right’ and has to be fixed
    • a fear that something bad will happen if things are not ‘just right’
    • a fear that just thinking about something bad could make it more likely to happen
  2. Common compulsions

    You may find yourself:

    • arranging or lining things up until they look or feel right
    • counting, out loud or in your head
    • repeating an action many times to cancel out a frightening thought
    • swapping an upsetting thought or picture in your mind for a ‘good’ one
    • asking other people for reassurance that things are right
    • avoiding places or objects that make you feel something is ‘wrong’
  3. How it can affect your life

    OCD can:

    • take up a lot of your time
    • make it hard to go to work, see friends and family or go out
    • cause a lot of distress
    • draw family members into your rituals

Understanding it

What is symmetry and ordering OCD?

Obsessive compulsive disorder (OCD) is a mental health condition where a person has obsessive thoughts and compulsive behaviours. OCD-UK says symmetry and ordering is one of five main types of OCD that are traditionally described. It adds that themes often overlap.

In this type of OCD, you feel a strong need for things to be even, in order or ‘just right’. Arranging, counting or repeating until they feel that way is the compulsion. OCD-UK says the fear behind it may be about avoiding the discomfort of things not feeling right. Sometimes it is about preventing harm.

The NHS lists ‘a need for symmetry or orderliness’ as a common obsession. It lists counting, ordering and arranging as common compulsions.

Our guide to what OCD is explains how obsessions and compulsions work together.

How it works

The ‘just right’ feeling

For some people, the urge is mostly about a feeling. Things look or feel wrong, and that brings a strong sense of unease. Putting them right is the compulsion.

For example, you might straighten the things on your desk again and again until they feel exactly right. Or you might count, or redo something, until it feels ‘complete’.

Putting things right brings relief, but only for a short time. The NHS explains that the obsession and anxiety soon come back, so the cycle starts again.

Keeping people safe

Ordering, fear of harm and ‘magical thinking’

For some people, ordering is tied to a fear of harm. You might feel that if things are not lined up, someone you love could have an accident or become ill.

Most people with OCD know their compulsions make no logical sense. But the NHS says they still feel they need to do them ‘just in case’.

Some people fear that just thinking about something bad will make it more likely to happen. OCD-UK calls this ‘magical thinking’. It is also sometimes called ‘thought-action fusion’. Arranging, counting or repeating can then feel like a way to cancel the thought out.

NHS inform gives the example of someone who fears causing harm to their family. They may feel the urge to repeat an action many times to ‘neutralise’ the thought. NHS inform says this kind of compulsion is particularly common in children with OCD.

Rituals can feel like they keep people safe. But NHS inform explains that they make OCD harder to manage. They stop you learning that the frightening thoughts are not real, and that you can cope with the anxiety.

Getting help

Is it OCD or just liking things neat?

Lots of people like a tidy desk or a neat cupboard. That on its own is not OCD. People sometimes say they are ‘a bit OCD’ when they like things neat. Mind says a common misconception is that OCD just means liking things to be tidy.

OCD-UK says small quirks that pass quickly and cause little distress are not OCD. OCD itself can leave a person struggling to function for hours at a time.

A key difference is how it feels. The Royal College of Psychiatrists says compulsions in OCD never give pleasure. They always feel like an unpleasant demand or burden. Putting things right may bring brief relief, but that is not the same as enjoying it.

It may be worth talking to a professional if:

  • the urges cause you distress
  • the rituals take up a lot of your time
  • they get in the way of work, school, friends or family life

Children often have little rituals of their own. The Royal College of Psychiatrists says many children have mild compulsions, such as arranging their toys very precisely or avoiding cracks in the pavement. This usually goes away as they grow older. But it is worth getting advice if a child’s rituals upset them, take up a lot of time or affect school or family life. Our guide to OCD in children and young people explains more.

How treatment helps with symmetry and ordering OCD

The NHS says therapy for OCD is usually a type of cognitive behavioural therapy (CBT) with exposure and response prevention (ERP). OCD-UK says all types of OCD have the same treatment approach, working on both the obsessions and the compulsions.

In ERP, you face the feeling that things are ‘not right’ in small steps, starting with what feels easiest. You hold back from fixing, counting or repeating, and wait for the discomfort to ease. For example, you might leave a picture slightly crooked and not straighten it.

This can be hard at first. NHS inform says distress is likely to get worse for a while when you cut down rituals, but this is temporary. The NHS says many people find the anxiety eventually improves or goes away.

At The OCD Treatment Clinic, you see an HCPC-registered clinical psychologist online via Zoom, and our treatment is built on CBT with ERP. Find out how OCD treatment works, or start with an Initial Consultation. See our fees and how to book.

Frequently asked questions

Is hoarding a type of OCD?

The NHS says hoarding disorder was long thought to be a form of OCD, but it is now considered a separate condition.

Hoarding can still be part of OCD for some people. The Royal College of Psychiatrists says that, when it is, people may not feel attached to the things they keep. Instead, they fear what will happen if they throw them away. It says about 1 in 20 people with OCD have a problem with hoarding.

The NHS has more information about hoarding disorder (opens in a new tab).

Can symmetry OCD go away on its own?

It is unlikely. Putting things right only brings relief for a short time, so the urge keeps coming back. The NHS says OCD is unlikely to get better on its own. But treatment and support can help you manage your symptoms and have a better quality of life.

NHS inform says most people improve after treatment. The NHS adds that it can take several months before you notice the benefit.

In England, you can refer yourself to an NHS talking therapies service if you are 18 or over (16 or 17 in some areas). Or you can see a GP, who can refer you. In Scotland, NHS inform says to speak to your GP or another healthcare professional. You can also choose to pay for therapy privately.

Can I get treatment for symmetry OCD online?

Yes. ERP does not have to happen in a clinic room. The Royal College of Psychiatrists says it can be done with a professional by video link, as well as face to face or by phone.

At The OCD Treatment Clinic, sessions take place on Zoom, so you can join from home. Individual 1:1 Treatment sessions last 50 minutes. You can have them twice weekly, weekly or fortnightly.

You do not need a referral or a diagnosis. You can start with a 30-minute Initial Consultation to talk through your concerns, get a clinical opinion and plan your treatment. See our fees and how to book.

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